NEW YORK, NEW YORK - OCTOBER 14: Luann de Lesseps attends the Legends Ball during 2022 BravoCon at Manhattan Center on October 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Santiago Felipe/Getty Images)
In an interview with People, Countess Lu took a break from her cabaret shows to dish on the untimely demise of RHONY: Legacy and eulogize what we could have had. She confirmed the sad news that negotiations reached a standstill. Sources confirmed to People that the reboot is offically “on pause.”
But Luann has her own ideas on what the future could hold for the RHONY cast.
“I always said, ‘Never count out the Countess,’ but in this case, it’s, ‘Never count out the New York City Housewives,'” Luann told People.
“Bravo is a genius at reinventing the wheel. They’re breathing new life into RHONY right now, and I have no doubt they’ll find a way to bring the OG’s and beloved New York City Housewives back together again,” Luann continued optimistically. “It may be not right now, but I have faith in Bravo and trust that they’re going to create something really spectacular that the fans will love in the near future.”
Honestly, who would have thought that one bad RHONY season would have led to such a chaotic turn of events for the franchise? Of course, hindsight is 20/20. Looking back on it, maybe we shouldn’t have complained so much about Season 13 of Real Housewives of New York. And with all the hype surrounding Legacy, it will be interesting to see how the recast version of RHONY translates with fans for Season 14. Will the new cast be welcomed with open arms, or will we still be mourning the loss of our OG cast?
Although the Legacy edition of RHONY is on the back burner for now, Countess Luann told the outlet that she’s grateful for the many years she’s spent working with Bravo. While she and the other classic RHONY ladies wait to potentially return to the negotiation table, Luann has her own idea for a spinoff that would undoubtedly satisfy. How about a Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip with just RHONY alums?
“How genius would that be? An Ultimate Girls Trip with all RHONY alums?” Luann suggested. “A quick little eight-day trip might actually open the door to some women who couldn’t commit to filming a full four-month show. And wouldn’t it be fun to go back to some places that we loved before, like Scary Island or St. Barts?” she added.
TELL US – ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT RHONY LEGACY ISN’T MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW? WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE AN ULTIMATE GIRLS TRIP WITH ALL RHONY ALUMS?
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Married At First Sight is definitely heating up! The honeymoons are usually when the drama begins. This season definitely doesn’t disappoint. This episode dropped a number of bombshells that I feel will set the stage for the remainder of their marriages. From the preview things definitely will continue to get messy. If this much is going down during the honeymoon, who knows what will happen once the couples move in together.
Five pairs of newlywed strangers honeymoon in Jamaica. Some spouses see red flags when they learn that their partners are not very adventurous. One couple inches closer to saying I love you. A revelation leaves one bride questioning her husband. Another bride makes a comment that may come back to haunt her. Let’s get straight into the recap!
Christopher & Nicole
Chris and Nicole have been getting along great ever since they met. Over the last couple of days, they have bonded over their past dating experiences and the desire to have a meaningful relationship. During a date later that day, they both go rum tasting with some pretty strong selections. After several shots they even learn a new dance. LOL! Chris had to be drunk to do that shimmy on national TV. But I love that they are having fun.
When their conversations become more serious, Nicole reveals more about how she was once a hot head. Chris makes it clear that he hopes not to meet that person and won’t allow her to mistreat him. Good for you, Chris! I’m not sure if she is testing the waters by revealing all of her toxic traits and experiences or she is just an upfront and honest person. But I feel like old habits can be hard to break, so it may only be a matter of time before they resurface.
Airris & Jasmine
Airris admits to Jasmine that in the past he has been quick to walk away from relationships for trivial reasons. Although she has also been the one to walk away, it has been for different reasons. She has struggled with balancing her career, family and the man in her life at the same time. Airris offers to help her lighten her load and be of support. Hopefully he truly means that because she seems like having someone who she can depend on would mean a lot to her.
At dinner, Jasmine is shocked that Airris jumps right into talking about sex. When she shows she isn’t comfortable, he continues with more suggestive rhetoric. Sigh! I mean they did just meet. I wouldn’t be comfortable telling someone I barely know my deepest desires either. There is nothing wrong with taking your time and getting to know one another before you broach those types of topics. She especially may need to feel him out after he casually shares that he has never been in love. That seems a little odd at the age of 39 when he has been in a relationship that lasted over a year. Naturally, Jasmine is concerned about what that could mean for their marriage.
Shaq and Kirsten have finally arrived in Jamaica for their honeymoon. After leaving a day late to give a presentation in the states they have a lot of catching up to do. He lets his wife know how much he appreciated her support. Although I don’t believe Kirsten likes her stranger spouse as much as he likes her, they do seem to be a lot more comfortable together. Later, the pair go out for a day on ATVs. Kirsten realizes that her husband isn’t as much of a risk taker as she would consider herself. In a post interview, Shaq explains that he has always has been very cautious due to his traumatic car accident. That makes sense as to why a ATV would make him nervous. But as the day continues he loosens up and actually is able to pick up the speed and have fun.
Kirsten finally admits to Shaq that she initially wasn’t attracted to him and his bald head. Yes, she said that. She also reveals that she isn’t much of a kisser, but enjoys physical touch. Hmm… is this true or just an excuse to continue avoiding any expectations of their lips touching? But Shaq will not be deterred! He isn’t offended and believes his wife is warming up to him. As long as he relaxes and just is himself, maybe things will continue to naturally progress. I will admit that Kirsten seems to be opening up more.
Mackinley & Domynique
Mackinley and Domynique enjoy a fun day in the water on a small boat. It’s clear very early on who in this marriage is adventurous and who is more cautious. She is shocked at how nervous her husband is during their date. But she manages to distract him with her cleavage to get him to relax. He even admits that he needs someone who will help him get out of his comfort zone. I have to admit Domynique seems very easy going and sweet with her husband. But I have seen the trailer and I know something is going to happen between these two. So I am waiting to see if it really bad or production trick.
Clint & Gina
After being lost for hours, Gina and Clint finally arrive at their destination. During their date, he shares how much it means to him to be able to share spontaneous experiences. Gina acknowledges she is a workaholic, but she hopes her husband can help her become more balanced. Just when I thought things were going really well, a bomb is dropped. Out of the blue, she tells Clint that she isn’t attracted to him. To add insult to injury, she then goes on to say “I don’t vibe with red heads or gingers”. WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! Where the hell did this come from? Gina has a lot of nerve! There were no clues that would have led me to think this is something she would just blurt out. Gina, that was rude and unnecessary. I am sorry to tell you, but there are things this man could say about your physical appearance. Instead he was mature in his response. There is a way to say everything and this definitely was not the way.
TELL US – DO YOU THINK KIRSTEN LIKES SHAQ? WERE YOU SHOCKED THAT GINA TOLD CLINT SHE WASN’T ATTRACTED TO HIM? WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BEST CHEMISTRY SO FAR?
At the top of the show, host Andy Cohen welcomed us back to Part 2 of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. All of the cast, including the “Friends Of,” are still seated on the couches, just as we left them. Have they been sitting there since last week just waiting for us?
Heather’s “Shame Spiral” Over Her Blackout Continues
Andy jumped right into the deep end by addressing Angie Katsanevas and her suggestion that Heather Gay got her black eye by doing “Barbie scissor kicks” with Jen Shah. (Seriously? I thought we’d already put this subject to rest.) Andy wanted to know where in the world she ever got that idea. Of course the women all started talking at once. Heather asked Angie, “You’ve been friends with [Jen] for 20 years, and you thought we’d had a sex act?”
Heather went on, “To add insult to injury, now I had a ‘sexcapade’ with Jen, which I’m covering up with my blackout. So this is just getting better . . . It wasn’t a sex injury, and if it was I don’t remember it. But I’ve never been attracted to Jen like that.”
Andy questioned (again — haven’t we already been over all of this?), why if Heather woke up with a black eye and scrachtes, wouldn’t she want to know who did it.
Heather responded tearfully, “I kind of felt that because I’d been drinking, whatever happened to me, I deserved it. I just felt embarrassed and ashamed.” That’s really sad. It’s that “Mormon guilt” at work again.
Andy told her, “That’s terrible.” Then he added, “Well, Heather, I’m glad you’re safe, depite all of the confusion, and I hope you give yourself a break, because it’s certainly not worth the ‘shame spiral’ you’re putting yourself through.” Amen, Andy. Nobody’s perfect. We all make mistakes.
Andy excused the “Friends Of” (Angie K., Angie Harrington and Danna (Banana) BuiNegrete) to return to their dressing rooms. As the show went to commercial, the women on Heather’s couch came to give her a hug, as she was still in tears, while the frenemies on the other couch (Whitney Rose, Lisa Barlow, Angie K. and Danna) took the opportunity to take a selfie together, totally ignoring their friend’s pain.
Andy Treats the Subject of Whitney’s Childhood Abuse With a Lot More Sensitivity Than Heather Did
After the break, Andy broached the subject of Whitney’s childhood abuse issues that came to light this season (but were totally overshadowed by Heather’s Black Eye). Whitney claimed the repressed memories that started coming back over the past couple of years were causing her some health problems, so she did some “memory recall work.” She said, “I never imagined that there would be questions about it, or that I’d get hate for it.”
Andy asked who had questioned her, whether is was viewers or family? It was Heather! We all saw her meltdown when Whitney tried to bring it up. I think Heather mentioned something about not wanting to take the attention away from Jen, as Jen was facing jail at the time.
Whitney said it was “cast members” and then viewers. She obviously didn’t want to piss off Heather again, but it was definitely Heather.
Andy then looked directly at Heather, as he asked, “Given where your relationship has gone this season, did you feel like you were able to support [Whitney] in the way that you would’ve had you two been in a better place?” See? Even Andy knew Whit was talking about Heather.
Heather admitted that they never discussed the subject when they weren’t on camera, so no, she didn’t support her cousin.
Whitney came prepared, though, and slapped Heather with, “After the dinner in Arizona, when [Heather] told me that my healing journey was childish, foolish, sloppy, and I made the trip about myself . . . ”
Insert clip of Heather pointing her finger at Whitney and telling her, “You arranged this trip. You wanted to celebrate Jen, not to work through all of your personal issues . . . you made it all about you.” Nice compassion for your cousin, Heather. Wow.
Whitney continued, “Why would I come back to you and try to have a conversation about that?”
The Beauty Lab owner backtracked at this point saying, “I did not realize that that was what we were talking about, and I am horrified that you think I would ever dismiss your feelings like that.” Well, be horrified, Heather, because that’s what the rest of us thought, too.
Andy told Whitney how sorry he was that she had to go through all of that. But did anybody hear an apology from Heather? Crickets.
The Notorious “Friendship Break”
Andy then launched into a conversation about the “cousins, ex-Mormons and good-time girls” who experienced “Bad Weather” this season, as Heather and Whitney “went from bright and sunny, to dark and stormy.”
While soaking in a hot tub with Angie K., Jen and Lisa Barlow, the Wild Rose entrepreneur said, “If Heather can’t validate my feelings and hear me, then I probably have to take a friendship break.” That alleged “friendship break” turned out to be the “deal-breaker” for Heather, who took it as a lack of loyalty on Whitney’s part.
Andy then read a comment from a viewer, who said, “Heather, you say you’re a loyal friend, because you kept forgiving and defending Jen, despite her constant lies and scamming innocent victims. Didn’t Whitney deserve at least the same patience and grace you gave Jen for far worse?” Good one, viewer from Mead, Washington! My thoughts exactly.
Heather responded that she has always held Jen to a lower standard than Whitney, right before Andy played a montage of Jen talking smack about her friend Heather when they were all (minus Heather) in the hot tub together. Jen actually said, “Heather is my friend 60% of the time. The point I’m at in my life, with everything I’m going through, I don’t need friends like that.” Wow. That one had to sting a little, as Heather always considered Jen her “Ride or Die.”
How Do the Women Feel After Supporting Jen All This Time, Now That She’s Pleaded Guilty?
Andy finally addressed the subject of Jen Shah and her court case, when he said, “After claiming innocence for over a year, Jen pled guilty.” Cue all the clips of Jen repeatedly insisting she was not guilty of the charges brought against her.
Heather expressed the opinion that everything seems “larger than life” when they’re filming. “[Jen] was arrested on camera, this happened while we were filming and it was hard for her to realize that these charges were not just part of the show.” So Jen just “forgot” that she scammed all those elderly people out of their life savings then, Heather?
Andy pointed out that in Season 2, Meredith didn’t seem at all surprised that Jen was arrested and charged with fraud. But then in Season 3, Meredith “did a 180, and blindly stood by her.” She even accompanied Heatherto NYC to support Jen in court, when Jen shocked everyone and pled guilty.
Meredith took the high road and said, “Guilty, innocent, in between, she is still a human being. I will always root for the underdog. Always.”
Whitney then asked Meredith, “How did you go from Season 2, hiring a private investigator, saying all these things, that she stole from your store . . . to you supporting her? I never understood [how] that happened.”
“The truth of the matter is,” Meredith began, “months before San Diego, months before any of you had this information, I was informed by a very reliable source that Jen had made an attempt on her life. And with what I went through [her nephew’s past drug addiction and suicide attempt], I wasn’t playing with that.”
Another viewer comment read, “Jen was actively committing fraud while showing her life on TV. Do any of you think she truly believed she was innocent?”
Heather admitted, “I thought she believed she was.”
Whitney added, “I don’t know why you would sign up to be a housewife if you were running a telemarketing scheme.”
Meredith dropped the bomb that blew everyone’s minds, when she announced, “The sealed indictment was on the day you announced our show at BravoCon . . . Jen didn’t know about it yet, but it had been a grand jury investigation. And they were trying to get more information on more people.”
Andy next asked if Jen had expressed any remorse for the victims of her scam, and they all agreed that no, she hadn’t. Lisa said, “I was quoted in an article, and she wrote me and said, ‘Tell me who my victims are, bitch!'” A screencap of Jen’s text to Lisa was then shown onscreen that read, “If you know of any victims in my legal case, please let me and my attorneys know!!!!! There have been ZERO victims so literally PLEASE send them to us. Because you know more that we do.” Wow. Deflection or delusion? You decide.
Andy asked Heather if Jen goes to jail, would she go to visit her? Heather said it would depend on where she goes, but she would certainly write to her and check in on Coach and Omar.
The Housewives Share Their Biggest Regrets of the Season
Finally Andy asked the Housewives what their biggest regret of the season was.
Heather: “My biggest regret is not going to bed immediately when we came home from the club, the Marilyn Monroe night. [I wish I had] just gone to bed and stopped drinking and stopped playing around.”
Whitney: “I wish I would have waited until I was sober to have the conversation surrounding the rumors [about Lisa’s business]. But I was kind of hoping that you [Heather] would say that one of your regrets is not mending our friendship.”
Meredith: “I think my biggest regret is not being more clear and careful with my words.”
Lisa: “For me, I just learned a lot this season, so I don’t wanna call it a regret, but I wish I had more boundaries with Jen, and I’m grateful for so much more.”
The champagne arrived and Andy toasted the ladies, thanking them for delivering a “really enjoyable season.” And as Lisa and Meredith both celebrated birthdays the week of the reunion, Andy wished they would “find a path toward reconciliation” with each other, as a cake was brought out for them to share.
TELL US – WHAT WAS YOUR FAVORITE PART OF THIS SEASON? DID YOU MISS JEN SHAH AT THE REUNION? COULD YOU BE HAPPY NEVER TALKING ABOUT HEATHER GAY’S STUPID BLACK EYE EVER AGAIN?
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